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Varg wrote:Even though music is subjective.....the best "song ever written" wouldn't be done by dipshits listed here.


It would have to have be done by not only a great composer, but also a master ORCHESTRATOR. You know, someone who actually knows something about music.

@nonymous wrote:(e.g. i don't care how many good songs Screwdriver has, their oppressive WP lyrics overshadow any musical ability the band may have).

Varg wrote:Even though music is subjective.....the best "song ever written" wouldn't be done by dipshits listed here.

Varg wrote:Even though music is subjective.....the best "song ever written" wouldn't be done by dipshits listed here.


It would have to have be done by not only a great composer, but also a master ORCHESTRATOR. You know, someone who actually knows something about music.

Varg wrote:

Hank Fist wrote: While trying to be smart, you made yourself sound stupid, as usual.

song
1. a short metrical composition intended or adapted for singing, esp. one in rhymed stanzas; a lyric; a ballad.
2. a musical piece adapted for singing or simulating a piece to be sung: Mendelssohn's “Songs without Words.”
3. poetical composition; poetry.
4. the art or act of singing; vocal music.
5. something that is sung.
6. an elaborate vocal signal produced by an animal, as the distinctive sounds produced by certain birds, frogs, etc., in a courtship or territorial display.

An orchestrator may be able to write music, but may have no poetic or lyrical abilities at all. Stop trying to be smart, and name a Mayhem song or something.

Oh LoL, I'm the stupid one? While you were looking up "song" perhaps you should have also looked up COMPOSER.

Let's dissect your second to last sentence here- "an orchestrator may be able to write music..." Orchestration and Composition (or "writing"- see? you should have looked it up) are two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS- it's obvious from this sentence, you are unaware of this. Orchestration, in something as little as a song, still plays a powerful role in the composition itself.

And sorry, your "but may" coulda, woulda, shoulda, statement- doesn't hold water. I said great composer, as well as, master orchestrator. A "great composer" is just that- great. If I said "mediocre" or "worthless composer" then sure, I suppose that would be true.

There are many composers who aren't masters at orchestration, but thats another topic for another time.


My point was- wouldn't it stand to reason, that if we were having legitimate discussion about the best song EVER, that it would almost certainly have to come from someone with an understanding of music? This is a valid and legitimate stance to take in such a discussion. Anybody can compose songs, but a Composer with an in-depth knowledge of all aspects of music theory stands a better chance against someone who would be considered a novice, because he already understands WHY certain things "sound good" and therefore is more likely to create "the greatest song ever".

And now you, trying to sound smart, have outed yourself as a complete dimwit.

What's next, a definition of "composition"?

Varg wrote: Anybody can compose songs, but a Composer with an in-depth knowledge of all aspects of music theory stands a better chance against someone who would be considered a novice, because he already understands WHY certain things "sound good" and therefore is more likely to create "the greatest song ever".

Wheatstache wrote:In a Market Dimly Lit - mewithoutYou (lots of others from this album are equally as good- especially lyrically, but I picked this one)

jonnyROCKET wrote:

Wheatstache wrote:In a Market Dimly Lit - mewithoutYou (lots of others from this album are equally as good- especially lyrically, but I picked this one)

I just saw them Sunday. They absolutely blew me away, like usual. I'd choose "O, Porcupine" or "Nice and Blue, Pt. II".

Hank Fist wrote:

Oh LoL, I'm the stupid one? While you were looking up "song" perhaps you should have also looked up COMPOSER.

Let's dissect your second to last sentence here- "an orchestrator may be able to write music..." Orchestration and Composition (or "writing"- see? you should have looked it up) are two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS- it's obvious from this sentence, you are unaware of this. Orchestration, in something as little as a song, still plays a powerful role in the composition itself.

And sorry, your "but may" coulda, woulda, shoulda, statement- doesn't hold water. I said great composer, as well as, master orchestrator. A "great composer" is just that- great. If I said "mediocre" or "worthless composer" then sure, I suppose that would be true.

There are many composers who aren't masters at orchestration, but thats another topic for another time.


My point was- wouldn't it stand to reason, that if we were having legitimate discussion about the best song EVER, that it would almost certainly have to come from someone with an understanding of music? This is a valid and legitimate stance to take in such a discussion. Anybody can compose songs, but a Composer with an in-depth knowledge of all aspects of music theory stands a better chance against someone who would be considered a novice, because he already understands WHY certain things "sound good" and therefore is more likely to create "the greatest song ever".

And now you, trying to sound smart, have outed yourself as a complete dimwit.

What's next, a definition of "composition"?

Um, Varg? This thread is about a favorite song. My daughter sings songs and records them all the time, and some of them are her favorite. You seem to think that a "real" song can only be created by someone that can write it out note for note.
You need to get laid, dude. You're way too uptight and anal.
You also need need to look up the definition of "jackfuck", jackfuck.