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Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:30 pm
by TooManyHumyns
so joe and i just went here, and talked with some dood named Geoff...and we have decided we want to try and start regularly booking punk and metal shows here...it costs 75bones to rent the room out. The room hes offering us is like the Haunted Buttment only way longer. The first show were going to try and do here is Witch Hunt...so check out that thread for more details...The place seems pretty rad, theres a bar, and whatnot...a good place to load equipment right into the room. outlets all over...clean, carpet, orange walls...pretty bitchen...yall have any thoughts...the only thing that bugs me is the $75 bucks, but we are going to pay it for this show...so it wont subtract from door money...the place is pretty artsy fartsy, but its way nice and in a good solid central, easy to find location...whats yer thoughts???
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:38 pm
by Nick
Cool. I hope this works out well. Does the place take a cut of the door money or let you/bands keep it all? Would the bar be open for shows and if so, is a bartender included in the $75 or would that be an additional fee to "rent" one?
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:41 pm
by TooManyHumyns
he said its disputable as long as we register as a non-profit...i would try and talk him down to 5percent if any...i think he said 10 though....not horrible...i think its worth it for a better show location though...and if we get shit going on regularly enough, then maybe he would just cut the 75dollar room rental or the door cut...
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:42 pm
by TooManyHumyns
the bar is open during shows...and i don't know about the rest of your comment...you don't have to pay anything other than what booze costs...it seems like its open regardless...
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:44 pm
by servo
how do you expect a venue to be successful if you dont let in kids who dont have any money to pay for the show because they spent it on beer?
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:45 pm
by Joe
If you are a booking company or whatever, they would normally take 20% of the door, but being the non profit punx that we are and us wanting the money made going directly to the bands, they said they'd most likely drop it to 10%, maybe even 5% because they are looking to build a music scene around the joint.... so, that's kinda cool.
Initially going in there, I was kinda put off with the artsy fartsy atmosphere, but when that jOFF dude showed us the room we could be renting out, it's nicely tucked away in the back of the place away from all the art. Kinda Botan Center vibe with a hallway connecting a bunch of rooms. The showspace is cool, so if Witchhunt goes over well, hopefully we can get some more shit going there.
-Joe.
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:49 pm
by servo
im actually really excited about seeing a band play somewhere besides the mews and the hb
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:53 pm
by TooManyHumyns
as am i.
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:56 pm
by Joe
One thing: I know you dudes are used to moshing into the walls at the HB, but don't do that at this new space.
-Joe.
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:57 pm
by Nick
TooManyHumyns wrote:the bar is open during shows...and i don't know about the rest of your comment...you don't have to pay anything other than what booze costs...it seems like its open regardless...
Thats good to hear. I was just wondering if there was a fee to "rent" a bartender, as that is how some of the art spaces in Chicago would operate if you wanted to book a show. If you wanted the bar to be open, you had to pay them to have a person bartend.
Joe wrote: ....they said they'd most likely drop it to 10%, maybe even 5% because they are looking to build a music scene around the joint.... so, that's kinda cool.
That's pretty sweet they are willing to work with you guys on the cut they take and also that they are wanting to build a scene around the place.
Re: Des Moines Social Club
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 11:01 pm
by TooManyHumyns
Joe wrote:One thing: I know you dudes are used to moshing into the walls at the HB, but don't do that at this new space.
-Joe.
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Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:40 am
by DaVo
Great I don't really care for the venues we have. So anything new is great. A flat rate of $75 is really good especially if it includes a sound system.
The fact is that if they do have a bar, they are going to make money. You may want to focus on that. You figure if you have a show that draws 100 people 80 of them are going to spend at least $15 on booze. That's $1200. If it's a Tuesday night or even a friday that's a good night. The only issue is all ages. See too many of these venues get greedy and stop seeing live music as what it is, which is promotion.
Good luck, I have to admit I'm more prone to go to a show there then I would HB. I think you will find there is a lot of people out there that feel the same.
You know I've always had this idea that involved a non-profit much like this one but with a focus on music. That would include a studio and resource side.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:43 am
by inx515xhell
DaVo wrote:You figure if you have a show that draws 100 people 80 of them are going to spend at least $15 on booze. That's $1200.
yeah probly not.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:26 am
by aeon grey
The bar there is open every night of the week. So I can't imagine they would charge you for a bartender. It is however, not anywhere near the stage if I am thinking of the same space that you are talking about Joe.
Could be cool, but be careful, there are certainly some snakes in that circle.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:37 am
by Potter
I'm usually down there at least once a day as a volunteer. Either actual labor or just volunteering my liver at the bar. I'd love to help out where its needed.
On complaint is the amount of olde maine on tap and the lack of PBR.
<-- on board.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:55 am
by Big Fat Retard
Do they supply the PA?
Do they have regular beer instead that Olde Main crap? I think it's great that they are supporting a local brewery, but I've tried their beer and it didn't taste very good to me.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:33 pm
by Hank Fist
i like this place. i've been to a few shows there. they have $2 beers. i think bartending is volunteer. there's a small stage next to the bar that i've seen bands play on, and then there's the huge room in the back.
It seems like the back room has a PA, but the front room doesn't. Don't know.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:34 pm
by Hank Fist
Potter wrote:
On complaint is the amount of olde maine on tap and the lack of PBR.
<-- on board.
when i was there it was Old Styles.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:42 pm
by aeon grey
The front room has a PA very similiar to the HB PA set up. Did not work for hip hop, but would probably be adequate just running vocals through it.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:06 pm
by joseph
Hank Fist wrote:AVOID THE BOYD!
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:39 pm
by crow
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:24 pm
by TooManyHumyns
the guy said that there is always a bartender on, and that if we had an event, then there definately would be.
there is a pa for that huge stage...we would be using the pa from the front and moving it to our room, which is right near that huge stage, its a yellow/orange room with a keg fridge, next to the belly dancing area or whatever...the room is similar to the size of the HB only longer...its all the way in the back...using that huge stage would be kinda sweet once shows get a lil more established there.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:57 pm
by tylerjames515
This sounds really fucking sweet. When is that show?
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:20 pm
by TooManyHumyns
the first show were gonna try out is the Witch Hunt show on the 27th of june...
you can find more info here:
http://515crew.com/msgbrd/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4047
were handing in the papers, so its not 100 percent confirmed...but will be by next week.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:30 pm
by Beaver
They have 3XW there the third friday of every month. Place is alright. The artsy d-bags are hanus, but you can easily ignore their beatnik bullshit.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:58 am
by crow
what is 3xw?
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:27 am
by Beaver
The local pro wrestling promotion, duh.
3xwrestling.com
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:52 pm
by Furious D
inx515xhell wrote:DaVo wrote:You figure if you have a show that draws 100 people 80 of them are going to spend at least $15 on booze. That's $1200.
yeah probly not.
Agreed. This estimate is absolutely out of control. Especially for a punk show, no chance in hell.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:44 pm
by El Rhino
Yeah, totally not going to happen. Maybe if you book the US Bombs at the Beechwood or something like that, but at a DIY punk show no way.
Re: Punk and Metal Shows @ the Des Moines Social Club...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:38 pm
by jjjsXe
especially since half the people there don't drink.