The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:53 pm
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The secret history of modern rock and roll?
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Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:42 am
read it you bums.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:50 pm
BUMP.
last time, dicktards.
last time, dicktards.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:16 pm
Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Part I
May 8, 2008
"There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear"
Join me now, if you have the time, as we take a stroll down memory lane to a time nearly four-and-a-half decades ago – a time when America last had uniformed ground troops fighting a sustained and bloody battle to impose, uhmm, ‘democracy’ on a sovereign nation.
It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
-thats as far as i made it. renuts.
Part I
May 8, 2008
"There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear"
Join me now, if you have the time, as we take a stroll down memory lane to a time nearly four-and-a-half decades ago – a time when America last had uniformed ground troops fighting a sustained and bloody battle to impose, uhmm, ‘democracy’ on a sovereign nation.
It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
-thats as far as i made it. renuts.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:01 am
I'm glad he's done bumping this.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:42 am
u guyz r fagz.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:18 am
Man, i wish there were tons of really loose hippie chicks around here.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:43 am
FOOLS! The lot of ya!
This story has way more to do with secret governemtn mind control military industrial complex esoteric shit than it has to do with hippies...
This story has way more to do with secret governemtn mind control military industrial complex esoteric shit than it has to do with hippies...
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:58 am
if it was written like that id still not look very deep.Crumpty Williams wrote:FOOLS! The lot of ya!
This story has way more to do with secret governemtn mind control military industrial complex esoteric shit than it has to do with hippies...
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:59 pm
its not written like that. its written like a very interesting story, presenting a lot of facts... its left to the reader to make any conlcusions. but ultimately fact upon fact upon interrelated fact makes it hard to believe that all its all a matter of coincidence...joseph wrote:if it was written like that id still not look very deep.Crumpty Williams wrote:FOOLS! The lot of ya!
This story has way more to do with secret governemtn mind control military industrial complex esoteric shit than it has to do with hippies...
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:16 pm
OK. i read the whole thing. complete crap. not funny not interesting not good. its not secret its not history and its not rock and roll. and its written worse than this post.
i want my ten minutes back
i want my ten minutes back
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:51 pm
Interesting but let's be realistic. Most of the hippies where the offspring of WWII vets. You would be hard pressed to find anyone in their 20s in 1964 that didn't have a vet for a father. Also most of Southern California was populated in the 50 and 60s by vets returning from WWII and Korea. This was due in part to the weather and the expanding airplane manufactor happening at the time. From what I can remember on the subject the reason they ended up in Laurel Canyon was because it was cheap but still close to Hollywood where they only clubs at the time were.
This all said, the idea that the hippie culture was the product of the Military Industrial Complex is wonderful. The idea that the US Government used Drugs, bad clothes and boring music to keep them college kids busy sounds about as far fetched as Alien spaceships at Area 51. Time and time the US Government has proved that it is really bad at keeping secrets and doing operations like setting up a counter culture.
This all said, the idea that the hippie culture was the product of the Military Industrial Complex is wonderful. The idea that the US Government used Drugs, bad clothes and boring music to keep them college kids busy sounds about as far fetched as Alien spaceships at Area 51. Time and time the US Government has proved that it is really bad at keeping secrets and doing operations like setting up a counter culture.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:32 am
Davo gets bonus points for most reasonable response. Joseph is a dufus.
P.S. Alien spaceships at Area 51 is some real shit. look into it. or don't. whatevs.
P.S. Alien spaceships at Area 51 is some real shit. look into it. or don't. whatevs.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:42 am
Also, at the highest levels, the government has been pretty damn good at keeping a lot of shady shit on the DL. Even things that have for the most part been completely uncovered, with public records available as proof, they've done a very good job of keeping out of the public eye through media control.... 99% of the population, for example, has no idea what MK-Ultra is/was (not the video game...), and wouldn't believe you if you told them....
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:51 am
Crumpty Williams wrote:BUMP.
last time, dicktards.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:06 am
responses to comments don't count as bumps, homes.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:10 am
Crumpty Williams wrote: last time, dicktards.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:13 am
thanks for keeping the flame alive, angrypants. 
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:13 am
Do you listen to Coast to Coast AM?Crumpty Williams wrote:MK-Ultra
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:17 am
no. i usually avoid the radio at just about all costs...
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:18 am
Crumpty Williams wrote: bums dicktards FOOLS! dufus. homes fagz angrypants.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:20 am
lol. you did get me there. i do have a silly way putting things sometimes.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:24 am
I learned about MK-Ultra on Coast to Coast AM.Crumpty Williams wrote:no. i usually avoid the radio at just about all costs...
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:35 am
Well... good. If you're point here is that it's "not so secret" if you heard about it on the radio, well, I see your point. My response would be that this is nonetheless a program that, considering its longevity and depth, the government has been relatively successful at keeping a secret... It's a pretty old program, and is only recently even beginning to creep into the main stream of public consciousness....Wheatstache wrote:I learned about MK-Ultra on Coast to Coast AM.Crumpty Williams wrote:no. i usually avoid the radio at just about all costs...
If anything, it actually is an example of how the government, historically at least, has been capable of keeping some pretty high level shit under wraps--to at least a certain extent.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:41 am
crump... give coast to coast a try.. I think you would like it. Sometimes it is great.. sometimes it is ridiculous.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:48 am
storkus wrote:Pratt, that article was the most rambling, incoherent piece of shit I've halfway read in a long time. It reads like a transcript of an answering machine message from a guy having an asthma attack.
I'm sorry to disappoint, but I fully stand by my original assertion that it's totally worthwhile reading. If nothing else, its a good exercise in thinking "outside the box". Of course, if you're not willing to do that, I can see how it might get a little frustrating. And I don't think the writing style is that bad, personally. I found the writer to have a good sense of humor about the whole thing--he seems to be completely aware of the outlandishness of the point he's trying to get across, but not giving a fuck and going for it anyway. That I can dig....
Also, if you haven't noticed there are multiple parts--I only posted part one (lol)--and it really starts coming together the more you read...
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:55 am
[quote="Crumpty Williams] If nothing else, its a good exercise in thinking "outside the box". [/quote]if youre not being sarcastic i think you need to start watching tv.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:00 pm
I'm sorry about the rain cloud that follows you around. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.joseph wrote:
if youre not being sarcastic i think you need to start watching tv.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:21 pm
im saying if any of this stuff is new to you... youre the one living in a box. they teach this stuff in jr high.Crumpty Williams wrote:I'm sorry about the rain cloud that follows you around. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.joseph wrote:
if youre not being sarcastic i think you need to start watching tv.
Re: The secret history of modern rock and roll?
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:34 pm
joseph wrote:im saying if any of this stuff is new to you... youre the one living in a box. they teach this stuff in jr high.Crumpty Williams wrote:I'm sorry about the rain cloud that follows you around. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.joseph wrote:
if youre not being sarcastic i think you need to start watching tv.
oh ok. thanks for the clarification. it all makes sense now. I just missed the the "Clandestine CIA Operations and Coverups" unit in junior high. Especially the sub-unit covering the well-known theory that the hippie counter-culture was created as a public diversion to confuse and entertain the public while discrediting the anti-war movement....
Duh. silly me for posting something so obvious.
lolz.