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Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:35 pm
by inx515xhell
Varg wrote:Post script- ask me how many bands from Iowa sent in demos that I "listened to" and threw away...you know in between my coffee fetching time and all.
TELL THOSE FAGGOTS TO LEARN TO SEND OUT THE RIGHT GOD DAMN ORDERS.
y'know, next time you're bringing them coffee.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:36 pm
by inx515xhell
also, what does that even mean?
varg has getting signed to prosthetic on LOCKDOWN.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:39 pm
by joseph
inx515xhell wrote:also, what does that even mean?
varg has getting signed to prosthetic on LOCKDOWN.
why would you name your label prosthetic. the word just makes me think prosthetic/fake
not that im making fun of a label ive never heard of or know what bands are on said label or that i pay much attention to labels and contracts anyway
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:40 pm
by servo
hey has balloon boy been discussed in this thread yet? it turns out he was just in the attic
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:26 pm
by moltar
Varg wrote:Don't see how anyone can argue against that, as you didn't even say anything. u mad?
Post script- ask me how many bands from Iowa sent in demos that I "listened to" and threw away...you know in between my coffee fetching time and all.
I'M ROID RAGING, BRO!
How many bands from Iowa sent in demos that you "listened to?"
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:02 pm
by Nick
servo wrote:hey has balloon boy been discussed in this thread yet? it turns out he was just in the attic
CNN!!
Also, Fred, the bassist in Facecage, is a pretty cool dude even if the band is completely awful. He used to be in my buddies band in high school and even back then he was a pretty good bassist.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:45 pm
by joseph
Nick wrote:
Also, Fred, the bassist in Facecage, is a pretty cool dude even if the band is completely awful. He used to be in my buddies band in high school and even back then he was a pretty good bassist.
i was hoping beaver would weigh in first but ..... you really need to go to more shows
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:18 am
by Varg
DaVo wrote:
This idea that there is all this money in touring is complete fantasy. Unless the band is at the level where they are playing large venues, touring is a money losing situation. I have yet to come in contact with an indy band that makes huge profits on the road. Most in fact only survive on the road with merch sales and tour support they get from the label.
I didn't say there is "all this money in touring"...I said the majority of their money comes from touring/merch. Touring is not always a losing situation. Why do you think GWAR tours 360 days out of the year? And I hate to break it to you, but bands aren't getting tour support at all now. If your van breaks down and you can't afford to get it fixed, you're done with that tour. If a venue screws you over on your guarantee, well that sucks, better crash at somebody's house who doesn't mind you eating their food.
Labels are in so deep with some artists, they're being incredibly stingy with anything less than their top dogs. It's pretty unfortunate.
But all that said, the bands that care divulge any information to me have told me that they still net a few k's each tour. Don't forget they get to write off their gas, lodging, and a few other expenses so whatever they make essentially is all take-home.
I'm not saying that a band can't manage themselves especially if they are a small indy band but reality is that they are limiting the amount of success they will see in the future. It's a who you know business regardless of what you think and there is an indy glass ceiling that they are going to hit. So hey if you aren't interested in running with the big dogs and getting big then sure sign to a small label, sign away your publishing, give away your ticket sales and your merch and let them control your career. Just don't be surprised if you get to the end and realize that someone else owns your music and your dead broke. Look at all those artist that made no money during their career but long after the band was dead and gone, have been lucky enough to make money off their publishing and masters by selling songs for ads, movies and TV. With 360 deals or the Polyphonic model bands and artist would be out of the profit and without control over how and when their music will be sold. Publishing is the future and the real money.
Again, I will reference Metal Blade. If you become ''too big'' for an indy label they will typically let you go for a variety of reasons. Slagel did that with Metalica, Goo Goo Dolls, Slayer, and a few others. They're never trapped. Even if a label wouldn't let them out for some reason, the band could very easily hire an entertainment attorney (they should already have one) to get them out pretty easily(this falls under that 'a variety of reasons' thing I just mentioned...)
And good God, you're not "signing away your publishing, giving up your ticket sales/merch sales, and letting them control your career". You just have no idea, guy. I will reference Cellador/Metal Blade here- Slagel TOLD them to get an attorney to go over the contract with them before signing it. I've looked through the contract, it was a whooping 15 pages of straightforward no-non-sense legal jargin- (as opposed to the 100+ page contracts I've seen for some major label artists where it takes them two paragraphs just to state their own address.)
If a band can't figure out whether or not they want to retain their publishing rights (actually its usually what PERCENTAGE of their publishing rights) after it's been explained to them, then honestly, they deserve everything they get.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:21 am
by Varg
inx515xhell wrote:
TELL THOSE FAGGOTS TO LEARN TO SEND OUT THE RIGHT GOD DAMN ORDERS.
y'know, next time you're bringing them coffee.
Explain? John (Funeral Pyre) is the one who sends out all the orders.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:24 am
by Varg
moltar wrote:
I'M ROID RAGING, BRO!
How many bands from Iowa sent in demos that you "listened to?"
Zero, I didn't listen to them, I threw them away. Actually, I probably would've listened to the "first few seconds".
I think Only sent something on the myspace, but it was a generic plea they seemed to expect wouldn't be responded to. I think Destrophy did something similar as well.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:36 am
by Big Fat Retard
Varg wrote:moltar wrote:
I'M ROID RAGING, BRO!
How many bands from Iowa sent in demos that you "listened to?"
Zero, I didn't listen to them, I threw them away. Actually, I probably would've listened to the "first few seconds".
I think Only sent something on the myspace, but it was a generic plea they seemed to expect wouldn't be responded to. I think Destrophy did something similar as well.
Any chance the High Rollers can get on your label?
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:54 am
by moltar
If Cellador sent me a demo, I'd break that junk into tiny little pieces.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:15 am
by TooManyHumyns
moltar wrote:I'd break that junk into tiny little pieces.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:06 pm
by moltar
Cool gimmick. How much folk crust does a person have to listen to for them to want to name their child after a master of the universe?
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:28 pm
by servo
did james name his kid man-at-arms?
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:27 pm
by TooManyHumyns
perhaps i was agreeing with you nate...
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:30 pm
by TooManyHumyns
no, we named her 'he man'...
i don't listen to folk...
i don't really listen to crust...
what is folk crust???
what do i listen to???
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:39 pm
by moltar
Dystopia's all acoustic split with Kenny Loggins...
I think that sheds light on most of those questions...
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:55 pm
by TooManyHumyns
...l...o...l...
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:23 pm
by servo
hey james
congratulations
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:04 pm
by jjjsXe
Varg wrote:
Zero, I didn't listen to them, I threw them away. Actually, I probably would've listened to the "first few seconds".
Wow, It is great to know that your awesome record company supports the music so honestly and give bands a bit of a chance. You guys run quite a fair business over there, not elitist at all! Way to support music!
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:14 pm
by Bullet Tooth
its great to know that varg takes his spite out during the performance of his job. youre a true professional, brother.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:57 pm
by JoePreppy
Varg wrote:
You said jackfuck- AND then said somebody else talks like a bitch? LOL- you truly are the 98 lb weakling. Come talk to me like that in person sometime and we'll see how permanent that trendy little tattoo of yours is.
K, then I could check out that fairy on your ankle and gecko on your shoulder? Trendy?
yeah all the brodudes and hipsters are beating down the doors getting an 'ohm's power wheel' tattoo to cover up their tribal arm bands. oh Varg you pathetic shithead you truly are reaching.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:59 am
by Varg
jjjsXe wrote:
Wow, It is great to know that your awesome record company supports the music so honestly and give bands a bit of a chance. You guys run quite a fair business over there, not elitist at all! Way to support music!
LOL FAIR?!? What do you think this is, P.E. kickball?? No wonder you all have absolutely NOTHING, you expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter in the name of ''fairness''.
JoePreppy wrote:
K, then I could check out that fairy on your ankle and gecko on your shoulder? Trendy?
yeah all the brodudes and hipsters are beating down the doors getting an 'ohm's power wheel' tattoo to cover up their tribal arm bands. oh Varg you pathetic shithead you truly are reaching.
Sorry, but tattoos are for fags, much like yourself. You might as well have gotten a giant penis or "conpasion" tattooed on your forehead.
The best part of your response was that you don't even realize how ironic it was that you were making fun of people for getting tribal armband tattoos when you got something just as equally lame. Think you're the only person with that tattoo? Let's give it a year and see how you feel...and who you identify with then.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:20 am
by inx515xhell
*compensation.
i have tattoos. my dick is bigger than yours.....
and it's tattooed.
epic win.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:59 am
by TooManyHumyns
so what was this name again nate?
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:23 pm
by JoePreppy
Varg wrote: Think you're the only person with that tattoo? Let's give it a year and see how you feel...and who you identify with then.
bwahahaha start the countdown faggot!
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:04 am
by DARKBASS
The future of music that reaches far and wide is in the hands of the artists themselves. If you can join with a company and make a team that helps both the company and the band, that's the reason to sign. Bands that are in it with the priority to make money seem to quit after 1-2 years, no matter if they think they "make it" or not.
Brian Slagel is someone in the music industry who has kept his integrity and credibility through many years of work, that is pretty excellent.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:54 pm
by BIll
Anyone remember the band from the Kids In The Hall that spent the entire time talking about "making it" instead of practicing?
Thats what I think of every time I see bands like this.
Re: Next big Iowa band
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:41 pm
by noel_nothing
i remember rod torkelson's armada featuring herman menderchuck.