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well, its a state prop so obviously it will only affect animals raised in california, but i remember when cali was the only place with legal medical grass. i guess in the scope of things it seems pretty trivial, but i consider it a step in the right direction.

yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.

prop 2 is a good step. though it's important to note that direct action, taken on behalf of concerned citizens, is what gives these propositions teeth.

www.directaction.info

agreed.

Smoking Guns wrote:yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.

You know a lot of this would end with taking the word marriage out of it. I know that is fucked and it would not allow equal rights but it would be a step in the right direction to call it civil union instead. Marriage means ordained by God to a lot of these fucks.

DaVo wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.

You know a lot of this would end with taking the word marriage out of it. I know that is fucked and it would not allow equal rights but it would be a step in the right direction to call it civil union instead. Marriage means ordained by God to a lot of these fucks.

There should be no legal term of marriage. Marriage is a religious institution and therefore should be irrelevant to the legal system. Instead, all couples wishing to be legally joined should be recognized as such under civil unions. Then, if desired/applicable, the couple could have a religiously recognized marriage. To me, this seems like the best course of action.

shane is legit.
down with this dude.

Shane wrote:

DaVo wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.

You know a lot of this would end with taking the word marriage out of it. I know that is fucked and it would not allow equal rights but it would be a step in the right direction to call it civil union instead. Marriage means ordained by God to a lot of these fucks.

There should be no legal term of marriage. Marriage is a religious institution and therefore should be irrelevant to the legal system. Instead, all couples wishing to be legally joined should be recognized as such under civil unions. Then, if desired/applicable, the couple could have a religiously recognized marriage. To me, this seems like the best course of action.

The thing is that for some reason many of the Gay rights groups are not interested in the term civil union. I think it's a hang up on words. I think it doesn't matter what it is called as long as it's equal.

I always thought marriage was supposed to be between two people and God, if they believe in a God. I never understood the reason the government needs to be involved in the first place except for the money they collect from marriage licenses and all the money lawyers make later when half of these people get divorced.. If two people want to go to a church and get married, it's their business and not the government's.

Smoking Guns wrote:arizona, california, and florida all voted to ban same sex marriage.

so fuck this election and fuck those states.

seriously.

Yeah, democracy sucks.

Eh. The fools who voted for prop 8 and others like it will fall on the wrong side of history, as they always do, soon enough. Just not this election.

Democracy moves slowly when it comes to civil rights, but eventually they will do the right thing.

also:

DaVo wrote:

Shane wrote:There should be no legal term of marriage. Marriage is a religious institution and therefore should be irrelevant to the legal system. Instead, all couples wishing to be legally joined should be recognized as such under civil unions. Then, if desired/applicable, the couple could have a religiously recognized marriage. To me, this seems like the best course of action.

The thing is that for some reason many of the Gay rights groups are not interested in the term civil union. I think it's a hang up on words. I think it doesn't matter what it is called as long as it's equal.

well... it's not equal if you still say things like, "you can do this, but you can't do it the same way we do it." but regardless... like shane is saying, unless you're willing to give same sex couples the EXACT same rights as opposite sex couples, then you really do need to get the word marriage out of the legal system completely. we can ALL have the same rights to civil unions. if religions want to then be exclusive and backwards, let 'em. that's what they've been doing since they were first dreamt up anyway.

robdigi wrote:Eh. The fools who voted for prop 8 and others like it will fall on the wrong side of history, as they always do, soon enough. Just not this election.

Democracy moves slowly when it comes to civil rights, but eventually they will do the right thing.

yes. i agree. but after big things like a supreme court officially declaring it unconstitutional to ban gay marriage, and then people still deciding to ban it, well... it just makes me sad that we are really that shitty and unable to progress.

People who voted to ban gay marriage are a buncha fagz!

the funniest part about all this is that their state is practically bankcrupt & they still wanna whine about gay peole getting married. wtf!?!

marriage should be banned.

mattpulpfree wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-9NNAFGTs

Fantastic. I want to be this kid.

DENTAL PLAN!

mattpulpfree wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-9NNAFGTs

Oh my fucking god, I just lost my mind during this video. Sexman rules.

Furious D wrote:

mattpulpfree wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-9NNAFGTs

Oh my fucking god, I just lost my mind during this video. Sexman rules.

AHH watch this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFr2YeW4mac
"I got brathes you athole sunth a bithes!"

his movie reviews are intense!