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jjjsXe wrote:i don't understand why you guys are acting like i am talking about people who eat meat being rude assholes and not being appreciative of food offered to them. i have already explained that isn't the case. i said i would appreciate anything free given to me and i'm sure any band would appreciate any free food given to them. that isn't the point. what i was trying to get at is, i think instead of JUST having vegan/veg food, we should have both that way if there is a band that doesn't have the specific ideals that you have, they can have something they are comfortable eating. i never once said that i would decline the food in a rude or asshole manner. of course if it is free food offered to them i would kindly accept it and that is that. i'm really not even starting and argument, but i just stated a fact that there are bands out there that do eat meat and to just serve everyone veg stuff might not always be cool for everyone. i don't see how that is an argument. suggesting an alternative for an alternative position of the food chain isn't exactly a huge asshole argument stance, it is merely a point that i was adding to the topic that had everything to do with the topic. you guys get so defensive about things like this that you can't help but create an argument out of it. that is way lame.

@nonymous wrote:

jjjsXe wrote:i don't understand why you guys are acting like i am talking about people who eat meat being rude assholes and not being appreciative of food offered to them. i have already explained that isn't the case. i said i would appreciate anything free given to me and i'm sure any band would appreciate any free food given to them. that isn't the point. what i was trying to get at is, i think instead of JUST having vegan/veg food, we should have both that way if there is a band that doesn't have the specific ideals that you have, they can have something they are comfortable eating. i never once said that i would decline the food in a rude or asshole manner. of course if it is free food offered to them i would kindly accept it and that is that. i'm really not even starting and argument, but i just stated a fact that there are bands out there that do eat meat and to just serve everyone veg stuff might not always be cool for everyone. i don't see how that is an argument. suggesting an alternative for an alternative position of the food chain isn't exactly a huge asshole argument stance, it is merely a point that i was adding to the topic that had everything to do with the topic. you guys get so defensive about things like this that you can't help but create an argument out of it. that is way lame.

why are you writing long-winded paragraphs about something that is so utterly simple to understand? if you're a band and you're on tour, you should be glad to get any free food that comes your way. if you're being hosted at a house that is made up of folks with vegan/vegetarian diets, you should expect to be served meals that reflect that. same goes for non-veg places.

i'm vegan. why would i cater to something that i decry just to make sure someone else is "comfortable"? folks are welcome to eat whatever they want but people shouldn't be expected to prepare food that goes against what they believe.

@nonymous wrote:

jjjsXe wrote:i don't understand why you guys are acting like i am talking about people who eat meat being rude assholes and not being appreciative of food offered to them. i have already explained that isn't the case. i said i would appreciate anything free given to me and i'm sure any band would appreciate any free food given to them. that isn't the point. what i was trying to get at is, i think instead of JUST having vegan/veg food, we should have both that way if there is a band that doesn't have the specific ideals that you have, they can have something they are comfortable eating. i never once said that i would decline the food in a rude or asshole manner. of course if it is free food offered to them i would kindly accept it and that is that. i'm really not even starting and argument, but i just stated a fact that there are bands out there that do eat meat and to just serve everyone veg stuff might not always be cool for everyone. i don't see how that is an argument. suggesting an alternative for an alternative position of the food chain isn't exactly a huge asshole argument stance, it is merely a point that i was adding to the topic that had everything to do with the topic. you guys get so defensive about things like this that you can't help but create an argument out of it. that is way lame.

why are you writing long-winded paragraphs about something that is so utterly simple to understand? if you're a band and you're on tour, you should be glad to get any free food that comes your way. if you're being hosted at a house that is made up of folks with vegan/vegetarian diets, you should expect to be served meals that reflect that. same goes for non-veg places.

i'm vegan. why would i cater to something that i decry just to make sure someone else is "comfortable"? folks are welcome to eat whatever they want but people shouldn't be expected to prepare food that goes against what they believe.

jjjsXe wrote:yes, that would be perfect. zach, im sorry for bringing all this trouble by adding my suggestion. let this be the end of a "argument" that never started out as an argument.

last nights show was awesome. thank you all for coming and supporting us , party time, fetus and especially toxic holocaust. they seemed to enjoy themselves. we all need to write more songs so we can keep those shows going on longer.

Joe wrote:Here's the deal:
I'm not buying meat for meat eaters. Sorry.
TACOS RULE
PIZZA SUCKS.

-Joe.

Joe wrote: I stayed up until 3:30 AM talking with the Suburban Smash kids about skateboarding. Time flies.

-Joe.

storkus wrote:Also, people who can't understand why vegans wouldn't cook meat for people who aren't vegan remind me a lot of people who don't understand why white people can't say 'nigga'.

teedotjaydot wrote:

Joe wrote:McDonald's is your non-vegan alternative.
It's not hard to find meat anywhere. It's hard to find good vegan food in towns you've never been to. Finding meat is not the point... because that's all over the place.

The point of a pizza with no cheese is to try something different and not have the same hum drum boring shit over and over.

But this is a dumb argument, so stop bringing it up every time eating "vegan" food is brought up. We know you don't like vegan pizza.

So get back on track.

-Joe.

Joe, you know I have absolutely no problem with veg/vegan diets but this kind of talk is absolutely ludricous....McDonalds!!!???

i may not be "healthy" to you vegs out there but i know better than that shit.

as far as what jjjsxe is saying, he's got a more than valid point. Several years ago when i took a trip to Cleveland and I stayed a Fort Totally Awesome, which is easily the coolest 'punk' house i've ever been to. The people who lived there were all veg/vegan and being as they were my hosts I respected that and did not bring meat into their house. I was there for 3 days. Now for those of us who do eat meat, when you are deprived of those certain supplements found regularly in the animal products we eat, the body starts to go a little wonky on you. I had eaten 2 or 3 full meals every day i was there and still on the way home i was shaky and felt fatigued. As horrible as this may sound to you guys, i stopped halfway home and got some meat and within 20 minutes felt right as rain.

I guess the point of all this is that if you're planning on fixing a "home away from home" type meal for bands, don't forget that not everyone is veg/vegan and that some people don't take supplements/eat a good amount of certain veggies to get all the nutrients they need. Maybe the Haunted Basement stop on their tour is that third day of malnutrition that puts them over the edge.....