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inflaymes wrote: It's a maltese cross.

I see you represent the 8 points of the Maltese Cross well:
The eight points symbolise the chivalric virtues
Loyalty
Piety
Frankness
Bravery
Glory and honour
Contempt of death
Helpfulness towards the poor and the sick
Respect for the church

inflaymes wrote:...that's funny..cause I'm Jewish too

I don't give a fuck what you are you inbred piece of shit. THIS ONE WAS NOT OKAY. In classic moron nu-metal fashion, you can't just back off. You have to keep justifying everything you do. Didn't you learn anything from before. You aren't going to make me think that you are anything but a piece of shit.

I expect a message sent to the colonizer myspace by 4pm today, apologizing for this.

What no snappy comeback?

You aren't going to try and talk your way out of your fucking blatant racism?

Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

Hank Fist wrote:

inflaymes wrote: It's a maltese cross.

I see you represent the 8 points of the Maltese Cross well:
The eight points symbolise the chivalric virtues
Loyalty
Piety
Frankness
Bravery
Glory and honour
Contempt of death
Helpfulness towards the poor and the sick
Respect for the church

Yes, just as much as half the people on here do. Not.

We're his remarks technically 'racist' though? not defending by any means...I've just always been confused by how racism is determined...are the Jewish people considered a race? i thought race was based off of physical traits as apposed to religious beliefs, customs, and whatnot...so if religion is considered to be an aspect of culture can it be considered racist??? I'm just curious I've been confused for a little while now..

TooManyHumyns wrote:We're his remarks technically 'racist' though? not defending by any means...I've just always been confused by how racism is determined...are the Jewish people considered a race? i thought race was based off of physical traits as apposed to religious beliefs, customs, and whatnot...so if religion is considered to be an aspect of culture can it be considered racist??? I'm just curious I've been confused for a little while now..

Judiasm is a religion you must be born into. Hebrew is the race. Yes it is racism.

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You stupid stupid motherfucker. I was dropping everything because I didn't need your fucked up negativity in my life.

Actually wishing pieces of shit who get on the road after drinking and put my friends, my family in danger had died, isn't racism. Has anyone close to you ever been effected by a drunk driver?

Fine, don't apologize, but you are going to get in over your head. People of all religions and races can be fucking racist, dumbass.

Thom wrote:

inflaymes wrote:...that's funny..cause I'm Jewish too

I don't give a fuck what you are you inbred piece of shit. THIS ONE WAS NOT OKAY. In classic moron nu-metal fashion, you can't just back off. You have to keep justifying everything you do. Didn't you learn anything from before. You aren't going to make me think that you are anything but a piece of shit.

I expect a message sent to the colonizer myspace by 4pm today, apologizing for this.

Jesus CHRIST, you are SUCH A FUCKING WHINER.

Varg wrote:

Thom wrote:

inflaymes wrote:...that's funny..cause I'm Jewish too

I don't give a fuck what you are you inbred piece of shit. THIS ONE WAS NOT OKAY. In classic moron nu-metal fashion, you can't just back off. You have to keep justifying everything you do. Didn't you learn anything from before. You aren't going to make me think that you are anything but a piece of shit.

I expect a message sent to the colonizer myspace by 4pm today, apologizing for this.

Jesus CHRIST, you are SUCH A FUCKING WHINER.

You better fucking hope I never see you again you again, cumstain.

Thom wrote:

TooManyHumyns wrote:We're his remarks technically 'racist' though? not defending by any means...I've just always been confused by how racism is determined...are the Jewish people considered a race? i thought race was based off of physical traits as apposed to religious beliefs, customs, and whatnot...so if religion is considered to be an aspect of culture can it be considered racist??? I'm just curious I've been confused for a little while now..

Judiasm is a religion you must be born into. Hebrew is the race. Yes it is racism.

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You stupid stupid motherfucker. I was dropping everything because I didn't need your fucked up negativity in my life.

Actually wishing pieces of shit who get on the road after drinking and put my friends, my family in danger had died, isn't racism. Has anyone close to you ever been effected by a drunk driver?

Fine, don't apologize, but you are going to get in over your head. People of all religions and races can be fucking racist, dumbass.

i don't know how legitimate of a source this is but...he states otherwise...

"What is "Jewish"?
From Lisa Katz,
Your Guide to Judaism.
Is being Jewish a race, nationality or religious identity?

Being Jewish is not a race

Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.

Being Jewish is not a nationality

Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.

Being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement

Being Jewish means you are a part of a religious movement. However, the great majority of Jews become a part of the religious movement through birth and not due to their beliefs or actions. In this way, being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement.

A Jewish identity is automatically bestowed on the babies of Jewish mothers (according to Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) and of Jewish mothers or fathers (according to Reform Judaism). This Jewish identity stays with them throughout life even if they don't actively practice Judaism.

If a person is not born Jewish, he/she can undergo the process of conversion to become a Jew. A person who was not born Jewish or has not gone through the conversion process is not considered a Jew even if he or she believes in Judaism and observes Jewish practices. The conversion process is very meaningful because it is the only way for a non-Jew to become Jewish."

Thom wrote:
You better fucking hope I never see you again you again, cumstain.

Or what, you'll WHINE at me?! I hope I do see you again. You seem to think you're pretty god damn tough, but I beg to differ...

1 more...
" Are Jews a Race?

In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.

But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.

But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.

Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.

Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung). "

Thom wrote:

TooManyHumyns wrote:We're his remarks technically 'racist' though? not defending by any means...I've just always been confused by how racism is determined...are the Jewish people considered a race? i thought race was based off of physical traits as apposed to religious beliefs, customs, and whatnot...so if religion is considered to be an aspect of culture can it be considered racist??? I'm just curious I've been confused for a little while now..

Judiasm is a religion you must be born into.

then how did sammy davis jr convert?

joseph wrote: then how did sammy davis jr convert?

refer to post above the one i qouted

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You were born and raised in Germany?

TooManyHumyns wrote:

joseph wrote: then how did sammy davis jr convert?

refer to post above the one i qouted

rhetorical question.

TooManyHumyns wrote: i don't know how legitimate of a source this is but...he states otherwise...

"What is "Jewish"?
From Lisa Katz,
Your Guide to Judaism.
Is being Jewish a race, nationality or religious identity?


A Jewish identity is automatically bestowed on the babies of Jewish mothers (according to Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) and of Jewish mothers or fathers (according to Reform Judaism). This Jewish identity stays with them throughout life even if they don't actively practice Judaism.

If a person is not born Jewish, he/she can undergo the process of conversion to become a Jew. A person who was not born Jewish or has not gone through the conversion process is not considered a Jew even if he or she believes in Judaism and observes Jewish practices. The conversion process is very meaningful because it is the only way for a non-Jew to become Jewish."

My bad. You can convert, but it is EXTREMELY difficult.
I'm more speaking of the Hebrew race in the context of this argument.
I guess I consider anyone who hates someone else because of the color of their skin, or their religion racist.
I think that Judaism is a little different than other religions in the whole race respect because thats what I was always taught.

Thom wrote:

TooManyHumyns wrote:We're his remarks technically 'racist' though? not defending by any means...I've just always been confused by how racism is determined...are the Jewish people considered a race? i thought race was based off of physical traits as apposed to religious beliefs, customs, and whatnot...so if religion is considered to be an aspect of culture can it be considered racist??? I'm just curious I've been confused for a little while now..

Judiasm is a religion you must be born into. Hebrew is the race. Yes it is racism.

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You stupid stupid motherfucker. I was dropping everything because I didn't need your fucked up negativity in my life.

Actually wishing pieces of shit who get on the road after drinking and put my friends, my family in danger had died, isn't racism. Has anyone close to you ever been effected by a drunk driver?

Fine, don't apologize, but you are going to get in over your head. People of all religions and races can be fucking racist, dumbass.

drunk driving? Excuse me again? there was absolutely no alcohol involved...where DO you come up with this?

and YOU bring the negativity by being an annoying prick who likes to hang on my nuts!

i had always been confused and conflicted on that one...its definitely something worth thinking about though...

AND, for the record..I AM NOT racist. Just hate dickheads.

inflaymes wrote:

Thom wrote:

TooManyHumyns wrote:We're his remarks technically 'racist' though? not defending by any means...I've just always been confused by how racism is determined...are the Jewish people considered a race? i thought race was based off of physical traits as apposed to religious beliefs, customs, and whatnot...so if religion is considered to be an aspect of culture can it be considered racist??? I'm just curious I've been confused for a little while now..

Judiasm is a religion you must be born into. Hebrew is the race. Yes it is racism.

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You stupid stupid motherfucker. I was dropping everything because I didn't need your fucked up negativity in my life.

Actually wishing pieces of shit who get on the road after drinking and put my friends, my family in danger had died, isn't racism. Has anyone close to you ever been effected by a drunk driver?

Fine, don't apologize, but you are going to get in over your head. People of all religions and races can be fucking racist, dumbass.

drunk driving? Excuse me again? there was absolutely no alcohol involved...where DO you come up with this?

and YOU bring the negativity by being an annoying prick who likes to hang on my nuts!

If there was no alcohol involved I'll let it go.

You fucking insulted a good friend of mine. I don't see how that is hanging on your nuts.

Remember when I said "hey, whats up?" and didn't instantly make fun of you?

why would a german born jew insult other people based on religion and say he was a nazi?

Wheatstache wrote:

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You were born and raised in Germany?

army brat? fulda w.germany

joseph wrote:

Wheatstache wrote:

inflaymes wrote:Oh, excuse me? And wishing people were dead and hating for the sake of hating isn't a form of racism? You drew a conclusion of my statement and about me... I fanned the flames of your stupidity. I don't apologize for anything. And yes I AM a German Jew, born and raised.

You were born and raised in Germany?

army brat? fulda w.germany

Not really, and You remember well.

citizen?

and I was insulted..where the fuck is my apology??

joseph wrote:citizen?

yes- the situation is a little deeper than i intend to go into.

obviously this shit never gets settled online. just set up the fight already.

inflaymes wrote:

Hank Fist wrote:

inflaymes wrote: It's a maltese cross.

I see you represent the 8 points of the Maltese Cross well:
The eight points symbolise the chivalric virtues
Loyalty
Piety
Frankness
Bravery
Glory and honour
Contempt of death
Helpfulness towards the poor and the sick
Respect for the church

Yes, just as much as half the people on here do. Not.

i guess, personally, if i display something on my person, it symbolizes something meaningful to me. I just not big into decorating myself with random symbols.

Ethnicity is the word everyone is searching for.

Fuck inflaymes. What a shithead.

-Joe.

[quote
I see you represent the 8 points of the Maltese Cross well:
The eight points symbolise the chivalric virtues
Loyalty
Piety
Frankness
Bravery
Glory and honour
Contempt of death
Helpfulness towards the poor and the sick
Respect for the church[/quote]




maltese cross has a different meaning for me as I was a firefighter in the Air Force..but yes, aside from being a Shithead on here ( I am what I'm given ) I am a pretty decent standup guy.