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Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:29 pm
by Clint
DaVo wrote:
The biggest question is, Has the Irish Punk thing became the new Ska? Something that every band geek can latch on to?
I don't know if I would go that far. Obviously it is getting more popular thanks to Flogging Molly and Dropkick, but I can't see a it ever having the popularity that ska has had. Lots of bands that try it, The Vandon Arms included, can't pull it off live. It has always been a lot easier to find a trumpet player than a tin whistle player or a piper. A lot of people who like the genre expect that instrumentation.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:50 pm
by joseph
can i be in an irish punk band?
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:13 pm
by Beaver
Lets start a scottish punk. Let's call it kilts and haagis.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:27 am
by Big Fat Retard
Anyone else think Tampa Josh and El Rhino need to get a room?
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:10 am
by El Rhino
Beaver wrote:Lets start a scottish punk. Let's call it kilts and haagis.
Old news. The Real McKenzies of Canada.
I thought "Loch'd and Loaded" was a pretty good album, but I didn't dig the other album I bought of theirs. They played at Hairy Mary's a few years ago and it was kind of a let-down. I expected a lot more of a lively, drunken set but really it was kind of dull. Maybe it was because it was all-ages, I don't know.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:11 am
by El Rhino
Big Fat Retard wrote:Anyone else think Tampa Josh and El Rhino need to get a room?
Anyone else think that Big Fat Retard and Afroman should go huff on a shotgun?
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:16 am
by Tampa Josh
El Rhino wrote:Big Fat Retard wrote:Anyone else think Tampa Josh and El Rhino need to get a room?
Anyone else think that Big Fat Retard and Afroman should go huff on a shotgun?
As long as they do it live on webcam
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:54 pm
by inx515xhell
El Rhino wrote:Beaver wrote:Lets start a scottish punk. Let's call it kilts and haagis.
Old news. The Real McKenzies of Canada.
old news. OI POLLOI
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:31 pm
by jjjsXe
oi polloi is sweet, those other bands are less sweet, if at all
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:34 pm
by Joe
Every band mentioned in this thread sucks.
Besides Oi Polloi.
-Joe.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:03 pm
by joseph
Joe wrote:Every band mentioned in this thread sucks.
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Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:16 pm
by El Rhino
Joe wrote:Every band mentioned in this thread sucks.
Besides Oi Polloi.
-Joe.
Now Joe, I understand that this thread is not full of your friends or discussion on local bands, thrash or ska-core but is there any need for chiming in with your passive-aggressive shit talking here?
PS: Oi Polloi sucks. They weren't mentioned as Scottish punk as they didn't try to sound distinctively Scottish (not saying that's a bad thing)
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:23 pm
by Joe
All I have is Resist The Atomic Menace. It's k.
Fuck ska-core.
-Joe.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:35 pm
by El Rhino
Ok, so we agree here. Fuck ska-core.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:08 am
by inx515xhell
El Rhino wrote:
PS: Oi Polloi sucks. They weren't mentioned as Scottish punk as they didn't try to sound distinctively Scottish (not saying that's a bad thing)
i don't understand what that means. they're definitely not traditional sounding, with the exception of a few songs. cuz they're definitely nothing like any of this junk.
as far as hardcore goes, they were totally fucking brutal. way heavier than most anything else at the time. listen to the guilty ep or even resist the atomic menace.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:48 am
by El Rhino
I mean they do not sound distinctively Scottish as in bagpipes, "Flower of Scotland" covers, songs about the fucking Loch Ness Monster or something and so-on.
When Beaver mentioned something about a Scottish punk band, I assume he did not mean a band that sounds like Oi Polloi and/or Baker's Dozen but yet a band that sounds distinctively Scottish with the above mentioned bagpipes, songs about Scottish stuff, etc, etc.
I don't care how good you think Oi Polloi was, their sound cannot be nailed down to Scotland and/or the descendents of people from Scotland like the Real McKenzies can. That's why Oi Polloi is not a good example of what Beaver was talking about.... I think.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:42 pm
by inx515xhell
yeah yeah, i get you.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:12 pm
by Tampa Josh
El Rhino wrote: songs about the fucking Loch Ness Monster
I really, really want to hear a song about the Loch Ness Monster.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:05 pm
by El Rhino
http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/literacy/f ... /audio.asp
This is pretty funny.
There's the classic skinhead reggae track "Loch Ness Monster", but that really doesn't have anything to do with Nessie.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:18 pm
by Tampa Josh
so disappointed in that song
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:08 pm
by DaVo
Joe wrote:Every band mentioned in this thread sucks.
Besides Oi Polloi.
-Joe.
My god, how many times did your parents drop you on your head? Or Polloi is by far the worst UK Oi! band ever. (Noticed I said Uk Oi! band).
Flogging Molly is by far the cream of the crop when it comes to the Irish Punk thing. I know you are Young and all but I have to point out the fushion of Punk and Traditional Irish music is nothing new. Can you say "Pogues". Hell half of the UK first generation was Irish.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:12 pm
by DaVo
El Rhino wrote:Ok, so we agree here. Fuck ska-core.
Yes, including everything that came out after Op Ivy. Then again there is a couple of Rancid songs that are Ok and the Bostones are a joy.
No, wait, yes fuck Ska-core and pig skull fuck straight-edge ska-core from Ohio.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:14 pm
by inx515xhell
wouldn't call them an oi band at all. def more on the hardcore side of things.
and what joe said is true, save for oi polloi, every band in this thread sucks.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:20 pm
by El Rhino
Just trying to stir the pot a little or can you tell me the Celtic Warrior, Legion of St. George, Hated & Proud, Avalon, Midtown Bootboys, etc, etc, you've actually heard?
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:24 pm
by DaVo
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:26 pm
by DaVo
El Rhino wrote:Just trying to stir the pot a little or can you tell me the Celtic Warrior, Legion of St. George, Hated & Proud, Avalon, Midtown Bootboys, etc, etc, you've actually heard?
Are you talking to me?
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:27 pm
by El Rhino
No, Tyler.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:28 pm
by DaVo
inx515xhell wrote:wouldn't call them an oi band at all. def more on the hardcore side of things.
and what joe said is true, save for oi polloi, every band in this thread sucks.
They were lumped into the early 80s UK Oi!/Street Punk scene, along with a lot of other bands and were in fact considered a Oi! Skinhead band but then again so was the Exploited.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:31 pm
by El Rhino
I always associated Oi Polloi with the patch pants crowd. Matter of fact, I don't think I've ever seen a pair of patch pants without an Oi Polloi patch.
Re: Making The Vandon Arms Look Good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:47 pm
by Tampa Josh
El Rhino wrote:I always associated Oi Polloi with the patch pants crowd. Matter of fact, I don't think I've ever seen a pair of patch pants without an Oi Polloi patch.
I saw an Oi Polloi butt flap last night, true story.