Varg wrote:
Man, are you a retarded fat sack of shit. When somebody says "another" and it's only preempted by "the mews" it indicates that he is referring to "the mews". Do you not understand how sentence structure works? No you don't. You don't know how to spell either- ref.: "show" (singular) and "then", lol.
I don't know any of these "DIY" promoters, but I do a whole bunch of Do NOTHING promoters that seem to have the town on lock-down. What constitutes a "DIY" band? Maybe the better question is, what local bands are NOT "DIY"? **For all you youngsters out there, this is an example of why you should stay in school and not drink or do drugs.
Quit ruining threads with your stupid bullshit you aging hipster faggot. Get the fuck off this board. You're like 50. Jesus Christ. We get it dude, you failed as a musician and human and you're clinging desperately to the last shards of a scene that use to be your life. Nobody gives a shit about your 'pearls of wisdom'- you are of no relevance. Go read Passman's book again and then tell everyone how they can "manage their own band" and "DIY" and what "being fully recouped" entails and fart blossom and all that shit.
dude not even kidding- just google search aging hipster and this is what you find:
hahahahahhahahahahaha HOLY SHIT!!!!
I always find it interesting that people in their 20s seem to think that they are doing something cutting edge and important but too often it is nothing more than another retro rehash of something that happened long before they were born. Sure I understand the generational thing but the fact is I always felt like I was late to the game and it was my interaction with those that came before me, that were some of the most interesting parts of the whole experience.
I don't know if your anger comes from the fact that you were born too late or because I've pointed out that you are full of shit. You see maybe I'm different in the mind set that I've never seen failure as a bad thing. Though if you really knew anything about me, you would know that I did things until they no longer interested me. I was in a band until I really didn't want to do it. I promoted shows and did some talent buying until it no longer interested me. I was involved with a Public Access show until it no longer interests me. Is that failure?
You see I didn't learn about DIY from some book, I learned it from either doing it myself or from other people that did things like promoted show, booked tours, started music venues, managed bands, started labels, put out fanzines, etc... Some of them were very successful and some of them weren't but the thing was they were all richer from the experience. Even the most bitter ones were willing to share their knowledge and help out when they could and none of them were whinny prejudice little bitches like you. You are a little man with a big mouth, nothing more than a troll, who when all your evil plans for setting the world on fire have failed, will be a bitter chewed up numb, who refuses to accept blame for your failures or learn from your experiences.
If your tone on this board is any indication of who you are, the only success that you will ever have is as a leech sucking off the talent of others. I don't think you truly understand the meaning of living life on your own terms or being prepared to face what the outcome of that will be. Your a middle man, average and at best, a boring troll, who can't see past his own self inflicted importance to contribute anything of worth.
I'm not clinging to anything. I've been a member of this form since it first came about and you know what when petty twits could find no other argument to mine, they brought up how I was close to 30 and so old. Now they are all about at that age and most of them are long gone. I was never a hipster, I just happened to be lucky and be in the right place at the right time more than a few times. This was in part because of the people I was lucky enough to have in my life. Even then it was about being around people that I wanted in my life and doing things I wanted to do. That really hasn't changed. There was a time when the term "Hip" meant knowledge now it just means the latest fad. Oh and boy, I wouldn't give up the knowledge I have to be young and "hip" like you.
The fact is that your post was stupid and petty. You are either stupid or you are just trying to be an asshole. I think the statement "Mews is still the best thing Des Moines has going... you know, until we get another DIY spot" is very clear. kylervk is not saying that VM is a DIY spot but is stating that he feels that VM is the best thing DSM has going until someone starts another DIY venue. Which I may point out has been a while. As far as not knowing any of these DIY promoters, even being as out of the loop as I am, I can think of at least two cases, DMHCC and Matt. Though the venues they are using aren't DIY, they are promoting their shows and not doing them for profit.
That is all I care to share with you on the subject, now fuck off youngsters, the adults are talking.
I paid my dues but I lost my Receipt.