515 Crew

[Nick]

I know a lot of you dudes are into this type of stuff on here. Got any recommendations? Any era, but list some newer stuff if you got it.

[TooManyHumyns]

dystopia, sea of deprivation, medication time...

[joseph]

question

[joseph]

monsula, ignition, 7 seconds...

[Nick]

Thanks, joseph...will check that shit out. And yeah...7 Seconds is a given.

Also, to clarify, bands similar to:

Floorpunch
Good Clean Fun
Gorilla Biscuits
John Walsh
Insted

[Bullet Tooth]

i cant really give you an pointers on that cause all of those bands suck.

[vegan ss]

Battery.

[Nickyouredead]

Champion, and Backfire.

[Nickyouredead]

Read that wrong, listen to Backfire anyway.

[joseph]

up front
byo
faith
straight from the heart


battery, seconded.

[Nick]

Champion, and Backfire.

Champion fucking rules!!! Good suggestion.

[Big Fat Retard]

I read the post title wrong. never mind.

[Joe]

Worst thread.
Worst bands.

-Joe.

[Nick]

Post-Hardcore? Is Hardcore over with?

Posi-hardcore, dude. :facepalm:

Post Hardcore is totally different. Both are actually genres. Think Dischord Records or early No Idea Records for Post Hardcore.

[El Rhino]

i cant really give you an pointers on that cause all of those bands suck.

Yes.

Worst thread.
Worst bands.

-Joe.

Pretty much.

I read the post title wrong. never mind.

Actually I did too. I'm not sure which appeals less to me though, "posi" or "post".



My advice: Just get some One Life Crew.

[joseph]

a chorus of disapproval

[Joe]

You might as well listen to Kidz Bop versions of Black Flag songs if you're going to listen to this shit.

-Joe.

[joseph]

Positive hardcore
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Positive hardcore is a term used in the hardcore scene to refer to the branch of hardcore that is socially aware or focuses on values such as being inclusive, community-oriented, and anti-violence.

Song subjects can include

opposition to violence and conflict within the scene
Veganism / Vegetarianism
Straight Edge
Perseverance in the face of life's struggles
Promoting the general welfare of the scene
opposition to racism
Promotion of female participation in the scene, a type of feminism
The term "positive hardcore" may have originated in Youth of Today lyrics using the word "positive" and Youth of Today songs like "Positive Outlook"[citation needed].

Contents [hide]
1 Relationship to Youth Crew movement
2 Branch off Genre vs. Movement
3 Bands
3.1 Active
3.2 Inactive
4 American hardcore/metalcore bands that have written positive songs
5 See also
6 References


[edit] Relationship to Youth Crew movement
All the youth crew bands are more or less positive hardcore bands, with the possible exceptions being Project X and Judge. While Project X and Judge were composed of members of the original youth crew bands, their songs were closer to being general straightedge hardcore than strictly positive hardcore.

[edit] Branch off Genre vs. Movement
A current question being asked within the scene is if the emergence of positive hardcore, is a musical branch-off from the notoriously aggressive hardcore scene (as Pop-Punk was to Traditional Punk) or is it merely bands keeping the traditional feel of hardcore, but providing a more positive lyrical experience and atmosphere. As the scene is most likely to grow, the question will most likely be answered.

[edit] Bands
[edit] Active
25 Ta Life (New Jersey)
7 Seconds (Reno, NV - intermittently active)
Daggermouth
Comeback Kid (Winnipeg, MB)
Crime In Stereo (Long Island, NY)
Good Clean Fun (Washington, DC)
H2O (New York City)
Heads Held High (Cleveland, OH)
Ignite (Orange County, CA)
John Walsh (Cincinnati, OH)
Paint It Black (band) (Philadelphia, PA)
Stretch Arm Strong (South Carolina)
Stick To Your Guns (Orange County, CA)
This Fight (Wilkes-Barre, PA)
Score To Zero (Berlin, Germany)
Cervantes (Leszno, Poland)
The Geeks
On
Persist (Sydney, Australia)
[edit] Inactive
Better Than a Thousand
Champion (Seattle, WA)
CIV (New York, NY)
Have Heart (Boston, MA)
Gorilla Biscuits (New York, NY)
IDK (New Jersey)
Insted (California)
Kid Dynamite (Philadelphia, PA)
Saints Never Surrender (Ft. Wayne, IN)
Strength 691 (New Jersey)
Verse (Providence, RI)
With Honor
Up Front (New York)
Youth of Today (New York, NY)
Floorpunch
Ten Yard Fight
[edit] American hardcore/metalcore bands that have written positive songs
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A few other bands aren't called positive bands, but have written a positive song or two, demonstrating positive hardcore's influence, roots, and connectedness to the rest of hardcore and/or metalcore:

Bad Brains ("Attitude", possibly the first positive hardcore song, shouting "PMA" which stands for Positive Mental Attitude)
25 Ta Life ("Keepin' It Real," "Inside Knowledge")
Agnostic Front (songs about scene unity)
Breakdown ("Don't Give Up")
Descendents
Judge
Hatebreed ("Perseverance")
It Prevails
Kill Your Idols
Misery Signals
Proven (most songs are about brotherhood and community, lifting yourself up, working hard and never giving up)
Ten Yard Fight (would almost be a positive hardcore band, except that they had a lot of songs either berating some person for alleged failings, or about how they wanted to beat up some person for one reason or another)
Terror
Warzone (arguably a positive hardcore band because of a lot of positive-style songs and work outside the band for promotion of positive causes and stuff to help the scene, but no one really calls them positive hardcore)
Waterdown ("Moshpit Etiquette")
[edit] See also
Straight edge
Hardcore punk
Peace Punk
[edit] References

[Joe]

If you like this style of music, you totally need to check this album out:



Crucial posi-core release!

-Joe.

[joseph]

joe- what do you like?

[Joe]

I like making fun of things that suck.



-Joe.

[tylerjames515]

Daggermouth fucking rules.

[Joe]

Daggermouth fucking rules.

Are you positively POSTIVE that they rule?
You may want to rethink this one.

Thought this thread was about hardcore anyway? Not pop punk. Shiiiiiiit.

-Joe.

[Nick]

That Wiki article actually lists some pretty good bands. Some I had forgotten about.

That Champion band is really effin' good though. More of that type stuff.

[tylerjames515]

That Wiki article actually lists some pretty good bands. Some I had forgotten about.

That Champion band is really effin' good though. More of that type stuff.

Maybe it's just me, but the first time I heard this band I thought they were pretty heavily champion influenced.

http://www.myspace.com/reasonstraightedge

[El Rhino]

That Wiki article actually lists some pretty good bands. Some I had forgotten about.

Yeah, but all the good bands they list really aren't "posi". Descendents? Agnostic Front? Warzone? Wut???






* I guess I do like YOT and Gorilla Biscuits though

[Joe]

Warzone (arguably a positive hardcore band because of a lot of positive-style songs and work outside the band for promotion of positive causes and stuff to help the scene, but no one really calls them positive hardcore)

Hahahaha, ooooookay.

There is no such genre as "positive hardcore". There is definitely POSITIVE hardcore, but this creation of a new genre labeled as such because someone has something nice to say in the lyrics to a song is a joke.

What you're looking for is youth crew.

And what you'll find is clichéd and stripped down hardcore. The lowest of the low, the dumbest of the dumb.

But, if you want to listen to this shit, this is probably best of the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICUyDpGQ ... L&index=64

-Joe.

[creepykid]

joe rules in this thread

[Nick]

What you're looking for is youth crew.

No. I'm not looking for watered down, Raybeez worship/NYHC bullshit.

More like Time Flies stuff: http://www.myspace.com/timefliesxxx - specifically more like "Keep It Shut"

And John Walsh: http://www.myspace.com/americasmostpositive

[Thom]

youth crew rules.

anyone with long hair automatically does not get an opinion on the goings on of positive hardcore bands.