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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by inx515xhell » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:07 pm

well, its a state prop so obviously it will only affect animals raised in california, but i remember when cali was the only place with legal medical grass. i guess in the scope of things it seems pretty trivial, but i consider it a step in the right direction.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Smoking Guns » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:16 pm

yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by MUPPET BURGER » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:26 pm

prop 2 is a good step. though it's important to note that direct action, taken on behalf of concerned citizens, is what gives these propositions teeth.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by inx515xhell » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:35 pm

agreed.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by DaVo » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:35 pm

Smoking Guns wrote:yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.
You know a lot of this would end with taking the word marriage out of it. I know that is fucked and it would not allow equal rights but it would be a step in the right direction to call it civil union instead. Marriage means ordained by God to a lot of these fucks.
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Shane » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:46 pm

DaVo wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.
You know a lot of this would end with taking the word marriage out of it. I know that is fucked and it would not allow equal rights but it would be a step in the right direction to call it civil union instead. Marriage means ordained by God to a lot of these fucks.
There should be no legal term of marriage. Marriage is a religious institution and therefore should be irrelevant to the legal system. Instead, all couples wishing to be legally joined should be recognized as such under civil unions. Then, if desired/applicable, the couple could have a religiously recognized marriage. To me, this seems like the best course of action.
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by inx515xhell » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:09 pm

shane is legit.
down with this dude.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by DaVo » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:34 pm

Shane wrote:
DaVo wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:yeah. prop 2 is definitely a nice step.

however... all the same sex marriage propositions getting shot down is a GIANT FUCKING STEP BACKWARDS.

it's so disheartening.
You know a lot of this would end with taking the word marriage out of it. I know that is fucked and it would not allow equal rights but it would be a step in the right direction to call it civil union instead. Marriage means ordained by God to a lot of these fucks.
There should be no legal term of marriage. Marriage is a religious institution and therefore should be irrelevant to the legal system. Instead, all couples wishing to be legally joined should be recognized as such under civil unions. Then, if desired/applicable, the couple could have a religiously recognized marriage. To me, this seems like the best course of action.
The thing is that for some reason many of the Gay rights groups are not interested in the term civil union. I think it's a hang up on words. I think it doesn't matter what it is called as long as it's equal.
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Big Fat Retard » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:31 am

I always thought marriage was supposed to be between two people and God, if they believe in a God. I never understood the reason the government needs to be involved in the first place except for the money they collect from marriage licenses and all the money lawyers make later when half of these people get divorced.. If two people want to go to a church and get married, it's their business and not the government's.
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by El Rhino » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:07 am

Smoking Guns wrote:arizona, california, and florida all voted to ban same sex marriage.

so fuck this election and fuck those states.

seriously.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by robdigi » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:09 am

Eh. The fools who voted for prop 8 and others like it will fall on the wrong side of history, as they always do, soon enough. Just not this election.

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Post by robdigi » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:16 am

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Smoking Guns » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:50 pm

DaVo wrote:
Shane wrote:There should be no legal term of marriage. Marriage is a religious institution and therefore should be irrelevant to the legal system. Instead, all couples wishing to be legally joined should be recognized as such under civil unions. Then, if desired/applicable, the couple could have a religiously recognized marriage. To me, this seems like the best course of action.
The thing is that for some reason many of the Gay rights groups are not interested in the term civil union. I think it's a hang up on words. I think it doesn't matter what it is called as long as it's equal.
well... it's not equal if you still say things like, "you can do this, but you can't do it the same way we do it." but regardless... like shane is saying, unless you're willing to give same sex couples the EXACT same rights as opposite sex couples, then you really do need to get the word marriage out of the legal system completely. we can ALL have the same rights to civil unions. if religions want to then be exclusive and backwards, let 'em. that's what they've been doing since they were first dreamt up anyway.
robdigi wrote:Eh. The fools who voted for prop 8 and others like it will fall on the wrong side of history, as they always do, soon enough. Just not this election.

Democracy moves slowly when it comes to civil rights, but eventually they will do the right thing.
yes. i agree. but after big things like a supreme court officially declaring it unconstitutional to ban gay marriage, and then people still deciding to ban it, well... it just makes me sad that we are really that shitty and unable to progress.

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Big Fat Retard » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:39 pm

People who voted to ban gay marriage are a buncha fagz!
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by noel_nothing » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:38 pm

the funniest part about all this is that their state is practically bankcrupt & they still wanna whine about gay peole getting married. wtf!?!

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Hank Fist » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:17 am

marriage should be banned.


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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Shane » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:29 am

Fantastic. I want to be this kid.
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by Furious D » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:48 am


Oh my fucking god, I just lost my mind during this video. Sexman rules.
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

Post by xkristyx » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:16 pm

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Oh my fucking god, I just lost my mind during this video. Sexman rules.
AHH watch this one:
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Re: Soo uhh.. how about those elections?

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