how much should a show be?
how much should a touring band be paid?
how much should a venue charge?
how much should a promoter get?
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how much does it mean to be scene
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Joey Chaos
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Re: how much
joseph wrote:how much should a show be?
how much should a touring band be paid?
how much should a venue charge?
how much should a promoter get?
1. 12 bucks
2. what they're worth
3. 12 bucks
4. 12 bucks
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Re: how much
12 bucks.joseph wrote:how much does it mean to be scene
Re: how much
THATS cheap rentJoey Chaos wrote:[
Re: how much
I'm not a big fan of paying venues to draw people into their bar to spend money. It really depends on where it's at and the crowd.
Ticket price should be based on breaking even divided by what you think the sales will be. For example of the cost is $1500 and you feel you are going to sell 100 tickets then $15 is where it should be. Often a band or it's management will set a goal for the ticket price regardless. This is to make the band look good with their fans. The problem is too often they are unwilling to drop their guarantee and the promoter loses their ass. I really think that like everything else tickets are going to jump in price. There is really no way around it as touring costs go through the roof.
The bands should make a majority of the profit. Usaully around 80 to 90% of the profit after cost. Here's a basic standard deal:
Band wages = $1000 + 90% after $1705
production cost = $150
Venue cost = $100
ads = $100
Hosp. = $200
Promoter's profit = $155.00(10% of the cost of the show)
Total $1705
Let's say that you charge $10 and 200 show up making the gross $2000
Out of that $2000, the promoter pays out $550 is cost leaving $1450. Out of that the band gets $1295 and the promoter gets $184.00. That's about 89% to the band and 11% to the promoter. Keep in mind if the show booms and 10 people show up the promoter is out $1550.
Now that said if there is little or no risk, no Guarantee or hosp. The deal should be a basic back down of 90/10 after cost. However the ticket price should be agreed on or set by the bands. This is especailly tour if they are on tour.
It comes down to this, if you are doing this to make money, do something else because unless you are doing a large volume and dealing with bigger bands there is very little money in it. If you are doing it for the fun of it and to support the scene, then at least set a goal of making enough to keep doing it. And more importantly have fun doing it.
Ticket price should be based on breaking even divided by what you think the sales will be. For example of the cost is $1500 and you feel you are going to sell 100 tickets then $15 is where it should be. Often a band or it's management will set a goal for the ticket price regardless. This is to make the band look good with their fans. The problem is too often they are unwilling to drop their guarantee and the promoter loses their ass. I really think that like everything else tickets are going to jump in price. There is really no way around it as touring costs go through the roof.
The bands should make a majority of the profit. Usaully around 80 to 90% of the profit after cost. Here's a basic standard deal:
Band wages = $1000 + 90% after $1705
production cost = $150
Venue cost = $100
ads = $100
Hosp. = $200
Promoter's profit = $155.00(10% of the cost of the show)
Total $1705
Let's say that you charge $10 and 200 show up making the gross $2000
Out of that $2000, the promoter pays out $550 is cost leaving $1450. Out of that the band gets $1295 and the promoter gets $184.00. That's about 89% to the band and 11% to the promoter. Keep in mind if the show booms and 10 people show up the promoter is out $1550.
Now that said if there is little or no risk, no Guarantee or hosp. The deal should be a basic back down of 90/10 after cost. However the ticket price should be agreed on or set by the bands. This is especailly tour if they are on tour.
It comes down to this, if you are doing this to make money, do something else because unless you are doing a large volume and dealing with bigger bands there is very little money in it. If you are doing it for the fun of it and to support the scene, then at least set a goal of making enough to keep doing it. And more importantly have fun doing it.
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