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god dammit ed...not what they spend THEIR PERSONAL MONEY ON...what they can spend their food stamps on...i never said organic food only....i mean, junk foods should be deterred, they dont need to accept the assistance....people dont need to apply if they arent happy with the help that is being offer...

and what opinion is that?
never said i was radical...
keep making assumptions ed,
keep calling names ed...good job.

ok, so you take 1 view somebody has and say that the one view makes you a neo con...and yes, the government should have higher standards on the GOVERNMENT run food assistance program, are you a fucking idiot? is that really a neo-con view? i feel like the government should encourage more fresh whole...

just to justify myself... i got a new truck in hopes of using it for light construction and remodeling this summer, it takes a truck and a trailer to transfer lumber and tools to a job site...my truck gets the same mileage as my car did(16-21)im working on doing a few things to hopefully get another...

you are right...but when you stated "if you guys put this much energy into constructive things"...that was an assumption you made that nobody in this discussion puts there energy into constructive things...because 'nothing gets done'...thats atleast how i read it. so ive backed up my state...

good one? you got me there?

no, i listen to him and laugh....whats wrong with listening to somebody you don't agree with? i agree with him COOL ed, quit playing crime thinc. and glenn beck by making everything black and white...i agree with him on some things, i disagree with him on most things...i dont know why i care how yo...

also his theories on direct action...honestly, you would probably agree with him on those issues as well...however, i dont listen to him to get riled up...or to agree with him...i listen to him because its funny to hear him get angry, then go on spontaneous ramblings about irrelevant nothings...make...

i agree with him on his theories of modern medicine, illegal drugs, the power of government, prostitution, and smaller localized minimal government, and all destruction from the various trade agreements...the problem is many of his political beliefs stem from 'G'od...and religion, or in some other b...

i dont care if you didnt show up to food not bombs, or help out with the free markets, or try to do anything for the info shop(not that anybody was allowed to really), or bike collective we were trying to start, or other activities you were invited to participate in an expressed interest in...you sa...

for the record i havent participated with FNB for over a year due to the same reason...more or less.

no, i listen to him and laugh...but his personal stories are gold...i believe he is the only honest right winger on the radio...and respect the way he goes about his radio program despite how absurd and out touch with reality he is...whats wrong with listening to somebody you don't agree with? but y...

shitty crust band? lol...most crust bands are shitty neo-con? lol...explain. right, because i haven't tried, participated or done anything...im not going to make a list...im also not going to make a list of all the times you said you were going to help with something, and didn't show up. vegan potlu...

enter ed bitching on the internet...because ed has been known to be reliable, participate and get things done...lets all have vegan potlucks and get along...

original was boring...almost fell asleep to it...took it out about half way through it...

This thread has become way too wordy, not to mention ridiculous. Everyone is now trying to come up with economic ways to support a venue space. Here's a no brainer: GET A LIQUOR LICENSE and pay the business taxes. In other words: become legitmate. Problem solved. BUT thats probably not punk enough ...

ideas we're working on w/ our group: silent investors-people who have money to invest in the idea but aren't interested in being hands on(one or two are involved in our group already); branching out-one idea was to talk to a local coffee shop about donating/providing basic equipment to have a simpl...

also, nobody commented on the produce idea...we always have tons of extra stuff from our garden, its all organic...and yum...and would be another way to generate funds...

so i guess i missed this earlier... music is definitely part of our plan--but our main focus so far has been to provide a space for artists/activists/people who have events and projects they want to do that don't have a fuckton of money to give to a venue like the social club. feel free to come to t...

as for the community space-there are plenty of ways to generate income. the one thing you don't want is randomness. if someone walks in and there's a few magazines, some records and trinkets for sale in a big space...it's confusing. it's also too ambitious to think that we will have anywhere near t...

i wasnt using 'wake up walmart' as a 'hey, this site really tells it like it is' just as an almost sarcastic reference...as they patrol walmart specifically to try and find everything they do that is unethical...i havent looked at the site since it was 16.

i consider it a good thing aside from the impact that it will have on local organic farmers in the states...as this is whats wrong with our country economically...we import almost everything, and have almost nothing left to offer the world...whoops.

apparently the usda label is on produce now...im sure there is still an arguement and questions about it though...if it is fully legit, i consider it a good thing...i honestly think organic food, and 'green products' should be the norm...and crazy chemical agents in food and goods should cost more...

no, apparently most of their organic goods come from...surprise! china...the problem that would be brought up is this: under all those trade agreements floating around the world, companies set their own standards... china/mexicos 'organic' produce would fall far short from american standards, they d...

so lets put all this together. 800/a month... which is alot, but at the same time not too much. the first thing to figure out where the money would come from? im assuming there will be items for sale such as zines/music/other merch for sale inside the place...which will generate something...lets say...

punks dont want to book at the mews cuz they take a percentage of the door.... but if punks want to start a diy space, they are going to need to pay the $600+ a month somehow...especially if its own en-titty(ha) and not somebodys house...ironically the only legit, and consistant source of income wou...

then hit the pm button and ask...nobody wants to read a statement that is compaible to `do you like me` on a folded up piece of paper...with a yes and a no written below it...just fucking ask....seriously every show he wants to play `druids should play this show` its not even a question...its an ann...

keithdruids wrote:so seriously DRUIDS should open this show. seriously. it'd be sick as fuck.

go fucking find the booker and ask then...ugh, i hate when you do this for every show you want to play...god dammit.

wah wah wah...fuck em. no. care. ever.
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